Hello all, I'm an old pigrancher and SR user... I haven't been around these parts in ages. I was sad when I recently had to nuke my Perception system (the damn thing kept working for years without a hitch, I wanted to start with a fresh registry) and looked to see what the latest version of SR is... rude awakening.
I sit down with Premiere occasionally and STILL try to shift drag clips to make copies. grrr.
I was thinking of looking towards Liquid since Avid bought it up and I could namedrop Avid as one of my software apps here. I'm thinking twice now from what I read above.
I do visuals for nightclubs and concerts too. I even use the Amiga (Pangolin) for my Laser Show. contact me off list if you're interested in talkin' business. alpay-at-smvisuals-dot-com
You practically described my exact set up, down to the ancient version of DF
Here is a short version of what happened here at the Pig Ranch.
We loved SR and the people there. We worked very hard to help them grow and serve the end users. But many of the most important and passionate people at In:Sync left the company. I know none of the details of why this happened, people who were our very good friends were very polite and professional about it and simply said things like “I could not take it any more”.
It was at that time we saw the end of In:Sync coming and decided to turn the great SR list into a general editors list. It would have remained the same great group of people but a few members decided that we were crazy, In:Sync would do just fine and they started their own SR lists. There were several and that scattered the members to other lists and other software. But as the company started the practice of not supporting the product and releasing old software with new names people started to run for the doors.
We were running DigiSuite full so we were not tied into an editor and moved (very early) to Premiere then to Premiere Pro. When we developed the need for HD we started looking very hard at everything out there. Editing systems and cameras.
After more than a year of specs and techs, head scratching and learning we came to the decision that we simply were going to have to spend some money and make some major changes.
Like In:Sync we found Matrox a great company to deal with and decided to go with Axio (HD). Then we discovered that Matrox had gone turnkey with Axio and that is just NOT our flavor. When we build a video system WE need to have deep understanding of the computer and all hardware to deal with failures. Matrox insists that you buy Axio as a turnkey system and it must run on an HP. So thanks, but no thanks.
Next we decided on BlackMagic and DeckLink. Even though we heard scary tales about slow response to problems and drivers that did not work we would take the chance.
Last spring we decided to go with Multibridge Studio from BlackMagic and placed (and prepaid) our order. We were told it would be manufactured and available in about 90 days.
It never happened! Each month we were told it would be “next month”. Two weeks ago we were told that it would be delivered in late January. Then (ooops) we were told that they would start manufacturing in late January.
BlackMagic Design’s reputations of not giving a darn about the customer become painfully clear to us. We had invested a large amount of money to have other equipment in place to support the MultiBridge.
Now let me bore you with the details of another wrinkle in all this. Cameras.
When it comes to HD and HDV you now have a lot of choices. We made the decision during this long evaluation process that tape is dead. It is only a matter of time before NO camera will use tape. You know the long list of tape negatives. Tape does not store forever. Tape adds noise to the product. Tape has dropout and gets worse over time. In a world where average people are storing home photos on DVDs that they can give to their grandchildren why the heck is video still on tape?
Our other belief is that HDV is a simply not a good idea. We think that HDV will always be that middle format that never really gets respect. Kind of like the S-Video of this decade. I hate to use bad language in a public post but UPCONVERT is just not something you do to footage you love.
That left us only one camera, (if you don’t count the $100,000+ solutions) the Panasonic HVX-200 that uses P2 storage.
This camera shoots real HD (1920x1080) and produces fantastic images. You can download short clips at our mirror site for DVXuser.com at www.RamGate.com
The HD product is saved in DVCPro HD and is only compressed at 100mbs, another reason the quality is SO fantastic.
More bad news looks now like Adobe wants nothing to do with DVCPro HD, at least not for a while. Version 2.0 is about to roll out and the posted product sheet says nothing about DVCPro Hd.
Yet another wrinkle is the fact that we have tens of hours of Betacam SP footage that we will always need to mix with our work. VERY few systems allow you to ingest analog material in a digital systems so this limited our choices as well.
Our end solution was Avid Express Pro HD. It solves most all of our problems. Not only can it work with DVCPro HD footage in its native format but also with the addition of the Avid Mojo unit you can import and export Betacam SP or any analog footage.
After using Speed Razor and Premiere Pro some many years I understand that I am in for a steep learning curve with Avid, so standby. I would not be surprised if Avid purchased Liquid to get the DVCPro (Liquid always has handled native DVCPro) or just wanted a CPU only solution in their catalog.
Here is a simple fact that I seem to never see stated:
If you only work in SD (DV) then you don’t need ANY special hardware, just a fast computer with a Firewire connection. Right now if you work in HD you will need extra hardware but even that will change. A few years from now computers will be so fast that people will edit HD home video on a laptop with ease.
If anyone is interested I will post my experience of a SR, Premiere guy moving to Avid.
Bottom line, Speed Razor is dead. Long live our great memories.